Much needed apology

[glenn]

To all L4E members (including dont_mess),

I would like to apologize to everyone for my recent behavior. I spammed, flamed, used curse words, and wasn't fun-loving and considerate like a typical L4E member should be.

I'm sorry.. but I get easily angered when the youngest people on wph try to talk all tough and speak out in the name of whats good and right without knowing anything about the situation at hand. Some might say I am immature when I lose my temper.. but feeble attempts by youngens to talk down to people anger me and display a far greater level of immaturity.

I am deeply sorry for my actions tho.

Hopefully someone with adequate knowledge of the mod tools can IP ban me correctly.

I want to be IP banned (perma banned) because I don't want anyone think I play on hidden names or visit the games at all.

I hate being around kids ( people under the age of 18) and refuse to befriend people younger than the age of 18 from here on out.

I would be interested in being a member of L4E.. if...

1. The people under the age of 18 leave me alone.. and respect that I only want to be an aquaintance.. not a friend.

2. People under the age of 18 do not try to lie and say they are older than they really are so that I will talk to them.

3. Everyone in L4E votes unanimously to have me back as a member... one no vote means no... no matter how many yes votes are tallied.

4. There is an 'adult' place to post in L4E where the younger members are locked out. Basically an area for 18 and older.. so that posts can be made free of the know-it-all minds of today's youth.

To all L4E members that are younger than 18.. please don't take offense to anything I am posting or take it personally. I am not referring to most of the L4E's.. but the actions of one person has opened my eyes to the reality of my dislike for young people. In real life teens are teens..they mingle with their own age groups.. and befriend only people they perceive as cool. They tend to avoid adults because adults cramp their style. Online.. teens become know-it-alls that think they are mentally capable of relating to adults and being considered as equal. A computer monitor and a keyboard and hundreds or thousands of miles makes teens bold and challenging. Everything is a big game.. and they feel like they can play with the best of them. Teens want respect.. and to be seen and considered a welcome and valued part of clans such as L4E.. and for the most part that can be the case. There are others that put on an act just so they can get the attention they seek.

I'm sure following this post.. someone under the age of 18 will post how they are different.. and how they don't do any of the things I mentioned.. how do I know this.. because thats how teens are. Teens hate to be labelled as being like everyone else, even though they constantly try to be like everyone else to fit in.. but shout they are individuals at the same time. They want to be unique and well known.. at the same time they dont want to be seen as different in a weird way.. ( like when a kid wears glasses).

Monkey being a sani clone is a perfect example. ( no offense.. but you act just like him now).

If everyone can handle having a stubborn, moody, kid- disliking adult in L4E.. vote yes.. but if you really don't like me now is your chance to speak up with a no vote.

(dont_mess.. this is your chance to have a forum without me in it.. might be a great time to vote no).

Thank you for taking the time to read this.. and vote what you really want.. be selfish. Please out of respect for me do not ask what everyone else is gonna do.. then decide based on that.. just vote what you really want.

sorry I am far too lazy to make a poll.. so just post ur answers. I dont care about the reasons.. teens love to have reasons for everything.. as if nobody will respect their decisions unless they explain themselves. A simple yes or no will do.

[L4E_WakaMol-King]

It's good to see you back Glenn. I hope we can get things worked out so that everyone is happy.

[Baby GahGah]

How about me, Glenn? Who do I imitate?

[glenn]

how about some votes people.. no need to be shy.

[L4E_WakaMol-King]

I think we're going to wait on this vote Glenn. Everyone involved would like a chance to cool off a bit.

[glenn]

everyone involved?

That would be myself.. and dont_mess... everyone else just got in my business.. when they should not have.

we are gonna wait = no

please inform Bean and Jade.

Thanks.


I do not want anyone trying to talk me into coming back. The clan has spoken.. its official. Its so easy to forget stuff that happens.. I dont want my issues to be forgotten. I want them out in the open.. and people to either accept me despite them.. or to speak up that they are not cool with it.. and to say so now.. without fear of what others might think.

If anyone has issues with me being here.. this is the time.. I get sooooooooo sick of people trying to always do the right thing and make everyone happy. There is no way to make each and every person in this clan happy.. people need to be accepted for who they are.. or told to move on. I have made my feelings clear in the last post, it is time for L4E to communicate.

If I were an L4E member.. under the age of 18 I would vote no.

This is a gaming clan.. and the members play at WPH.. games and kids go hand in hand.

All I need is for someone to step up.. and to speak out so that Bean and Jade can see that I am not wanted here, so they can let the idea of me being here die.

If someone can do this for me please do it.

Thanks again.

[decay]

glenn said:

To all L4E members (including dont_mess),


1. The people under the age of 18 leave me alone.. and respect that I only want to be an aquaintance.. not a friend.

2. People under the age of 18 do not try to lie and say they are older than they really are so that I will talk to them.

3. Everyone in L4E votes unanimously to have me back as a member... one no vote means no... no matter how many yes votes are tallied.

4. There is an 'adult' place to post in L4E where the younger members are locked out. Basically an area for 18 and older.. so that posts can be made free of the know-it-all minds of today's youth.

more than 50% of wph is under the age of 18.
why does being 18 even matter? i know people who are above 18 who act like they are below the age of 18.

[glenn]

enjoi said:

glenn said:

To all L4E members (including dont_mess),


1. The people under the age of 18 leave me alone.. and respect that I only want to be an aquaintance.. not a friend.

2. People under the age of 18 do not try to lie and say they are older than they really are so that I will talk to them.

3. Everyone in L4E votes unanimously to have me back as a member... one no vote means no... no matter how many yes votes are tallied.

4. There is an 'adult' place to post in L4E where the younger members are locked out. Basically an area for 18 and older.. so that posts can be made free of the know-it-all minds of today's youth.

more than 50% of wph is under the age of 18.
why does being 18 even matter? i know people who are above 18 who act like they are below the age of 18.

Here's why...

1. People under 18 are more likely to engage in questionable acts online with people older by lying about their age and/or what they are willing to do for attention.

2. People under 18 like Couch love to call me a disgusting old man because I was friends with people like Ale and dont_mess. (Both of which I am no longer friends with).

3. People like River like to call me a disgusting old man for having Jade as my WPH wife..even though in real life Jade has a different name.. a bf named Chris.. and we both have absolutely no interest in eachother.

4. People under 18 can make a false accusation anytime they would like.. with regard to an adult.. and people automatically believe the person under 18 without finding out the details.

I have often been asked why I even bother chatting with young people.. or playing the games at wph when it is primarily kids.. and dysfunctional adults like Shark and UK_Monkey. This is a good question.. and I don't have a good answer for it.

I realize being nice to young people online can be considered stigmatic.. and I really dont want to be a part of it anymore.

The only reason I even made this thread was to apologize for the angry stuff I said in the name of getting banned.. and to satisfy Bean and Jade who claim people actually want me back in L4E.

Justin the fact that you would even ask why age matters is a typical young people response to life. All teenagers want respect from adults and they feel like they dont get it.. there is a reason for that. While you may be mature in a many ways, keep your cool in the lobby.. and post with respect.. you have absolutely no idea what its like to live on your own.. to keep a job.. maintain a career.. have people close to you die on a regular basis.. get cheated on by a fiance you spent 5 years with.. cope with chronic illness.. or have people depend on you for everything they need. (Raising children). Deal with a drug or alcohol problem.. have friends commit suicide and blame you for not being there.. being in jail.. losing everything.. having your house destroyed in a natural disaster or a fire.. be sued in a court of law.... be audited by the IRS.. deal with the mental aspects of aging.. work a job you absolutely hate because your family needs a place to live and food to eat.. been black mailed for a promotion.. be accused of sexual harrassment by a girl at work you have never even spoken a word to..ever! Depend on having a pension be there by the company you were dedicated to for many years.. only to have that company say you cant retire because your pension is gone.

There is nothing better in life than being young... no matter how badly young people feel their lives are..no matter how badly they feel like they have it.. so I am also tired of seeing young people with tons of potential wasting their lives away online.. instead of being out and living life.. playing sports.. doing hobbies.. trying new things..like people used to do when they were kids.

Does that explain it well?

[sexy lexy]

yes. it does Glenn.
i vote yes, but then again, im 18 and i love glenn more than anyone here probably.
Glenn, when i said people wanted you back i meant that most of them want the old you back, and some can handle you as you are, not that youve changed much, but they want the glenn back that used to enjoy talking with them, that made us all laugh, and think about life and everything around us.
What you are saying is true, im not going to be on your back anymore about coming back to these forums, but dont deny that people here didnt like you...
now the ones under 18 dont like the fact that you dont like them, u cant expect them all to like u back if u sit there and say how much u dislike them.
if one point you are trying to prove to bean and I is about how much people here didnt like you, then so be it. but their reasons shouldnt be because you now dont like people under 18.
I for one want you back, king didnt want a vote just yet because maybe he wanted things private.
anyway glenn, whatever happens, i still love you, and i hope you still will talk to me on msn at least and i hope you will let everyone else talk to u on msn as well.

[decay]

i may have not had all that stuff happen to me, since im only 15 years old...but thats life.

so, in my head your saying people under the age of 18 have the good life and you hate that.

[THE DEVIL]

dude glenn

u kno i want u here u kno i have nothing against u

i do understand how ur frustrated. i have been frustrated with the lobby too thats why im just not there rite now

give it some time and cool off but dont leave ur friends even if we are only online friends

[Baby GahGah]

glenn said:

1. People under 18 are more likely to engage in questionable acts online with people older by lying about their age and/or what they are willing to do for attention.

Good point... On the other hand, I know 30 year olds that lie about their age, and sex even, and do some other things to get attention.

glenn said:

2. People under 18 like Couch love to call me a disgusting old man because I was friends with people like Ale and dont_mess. (Both of which I am no longer friends with).


3. People like River like to call me a disgusting old man for having Jade as my WPH wife..even though in real life Jade has a different name.. a bf named Chris.. and we both have absolutely no interest in eachother.

Oh, is that why you're a disgusting old man? I guess we all have our different views.

glenn said:

4. People under 18 can make a false accusation anytime they would like.. with regard to an adult.. and people automatically believe the person under 18 without finding out the details.

Maybe that's because you're a habitual liar.

glenn said:

Justin the fact that you would even ask why age matters is a typical young people response to life. All teenagers want respect from adults and they feel like they dont get it.. there is a reason for that. While you may be mature in a many ways, keep your cool in the lobby.. and post with respect.. you have absolutely no idea what its like to live on your own.. to keep a job.. maintain a career.. have people close to you die on a regular basis.. get cheated on by a fiance you spent 5 years with.. cope with chronic illness.. or have people depend on you for everything they need. (Raising children). Deal with a drug or alcohol problem.. have friends commit suicide and blame you for not being there.. being in jail.. losing everything.. having your house destroyed in a natural disaster or a fire.. be sued in a court of law.... be audited by the IRS.. deal with the mental aspects of aging.. work a job you absolutely hate because your family needs a place to live and food to eat.. been black mailed for a promotion.. be accused of sexual harrassment by a girl at work you have never even spoken a word to..ever! Depend on having a pension be there by the company you were dedicated to for many years.. only to have that company say you cant retire because your pension is gone.

God, Glenn.... You are so intellectual. Although, as a close friend of mine would say, there are just a few logical fouls in this paragraph. Can you spot them? That's right... hasty generalizations. I'm sure no one under 18 has ever had a friend commit suicide, or had a family to take care of. Of course, a minor wouldn't be audited by the IRS. Why do people even get audited in the first place? Oh yea, TAX EVASION.

glenn said:

There is nothing better in life than being young... no matter how badly young people feel their lives are..no matter how badly they feel like they have it.. so I am also tired of seeing young people with tons of potential wasting their lives away online.. instead of being out and living life.. playing sports.. doing hobbies.. trying new things..like people used to do when they were kids.

While you like to admire the fact that you 'played sports', try being a bit sympathetic. The fact is, Glenn... You DO NOT have it the worst. If someone likes talking to friends on the internet, let them. Quit being a judgmental, and hypocritical, jerk and follow your own goals.

CHM thanks you for your support. Have a nice day.

[sexy lexy]

fuck. now this is all just a big fucking fight and im not dealing with this shit anymore.
ash, i love you hun
and glenn, i love you too
but im not going to fucking pick sides over this shit.

[beantown]

Ash.... u know ur not helping anyone by just doing what Glenn is doign and attacking someone. Lets all chill daaaammn.

[glenn]

Allie.. no worries .. ur 18..I will definitely stay close with you.

Ashley..ur being a typical teen trying to pick through my words..when my words are my opinion.. nothing more.

Justin I dont hate kids because they are young and i'm not.. I hate kids because they say stuff like Ashley said.

Yes I lied in the past.. it surely wasn't after being close friends with someone for 2 years... and both Meg and Summer are closer to me now than they were back then. Ashley you werent around so how do you know anything about that.

Bottom line.. like I fuuucking said before.. vote yes or no.. I dont want this gibberish to continue. I'm not here to pick fights.. I was here to satifsy the demands of Bean and Jade.

I told you what I think.. and like a typical kid Ashley decided to try to beat me in a self imagined battle of wits.

The last thing I care about is for people to try to find flaws in my thinking.. it is what it is.

This is wrong.. I have no idea why I am here typing this ... when I personally do not want to be a part of this anymore.

Could everyone please just pretend I was never here.. and move on..its the best way to deal with this. You all have dont_mess to be friends with.. she is a fun person to talk to and you have eachother..a group of people who dont care about age eh.